Do blogs need to be so lonely?

If the web is participatory, and I really think it is, then how come blogging can feel so lonely?


After I wrote about participation a couple of weeks ago, it brought me back to a question that I return to from time to time. Do blogs, like this one I’m writing in now, need to be so lonely? Not always, but sometimes, I feel like I’m shouting into the void.

I’m picturing something relatively simple. Something like a group blog, or a blog co-op. A group of internet friends posting together, without too much oversight or coordination between them. When somebody has an idea, they post. Others can respond to those posts in new posts. Or not. And together, a group of people chip away at a blog together. Personally, I’d love to be in a group like that.

Leon Paternoster blogged about the idea of blogging collectively last year.

Well, you could start with an actual collective – a group of likeminded internet folk co-authoring a manifesto or corpus of shared principles. Perhaps it would have a shared website, although maybe we want to keep our own blogs (but why?, Leon). The website could syndicate its members’ posts, formalising existing connections and networks, and maybe extending their reach and size in the process.

New technologies create new possibilities, and something like a collective blog is more possible than ever. However, Paternoster came back to this idea recently. He points out that the blocker isn’t a tech problem. Rather, modern blogging is built on top of a techno-individualistic mindset. It’s something that requires one to teach themselves a set of technical skills, preventing it from being a more communal pursuit. This is especially true in the current era of the web, when centralized platforms absorbed most of the web’s content, and only left space for individuals with time on their hands.

But of course, the idea of a collective blog is not novel or new. The web was social by design, after all. I can do what I always do, and look to history for analogs. As with most things, I found some.


That brought me to Fray.com, which was created in 1996 by Derek Powazek. Fray.com collected stories from whoever wanted to contribute. The only rule was that each story had to be written from an individual’s point of view, but other than that, each contributor was free to write whatever they wanted, in whatever format they wanted. Each week, Powazek would post a couple of new stories, remixed and adapted through a maze of hyperlinks for the web, sometimes accompanied by graphics. The result was a kaleidoscopic blend of voices that always felt fresh.

That was kind of the point, actually. To encourage active participation on the web.

Afterdinner followed a similar path, alos launched in 1996, allowing short story submissions from people that it would feature on its homepage. They’d change as often as the site’s creator Alex Massie could manage. But there was no shortage of story submissions, and no shortage of visitors. Massie had a particular interest in collaborative sites, and the way it could amplify voices that might otherwise be ignored. “I’d love to be the next Fitzgerald,” she once remarked in an interview, “but, more likely, I’ll have more impact on the world by finding the next Fitzgerald, and I’m content with that.”

Massie ran a similar collective experiment at the time called Regarding, where a small group of contributors recorded themselves and posted clips on the site. That ended up being the model that some other blogs took—a group of a few people, or may be slightly more, that all blogged together. The most notable was probably BoingBoing or Shakesville, but there have been others over the years.

Massie and Powazek were both following the idea that the web was participatory. That just felt obvious to them, and most of the people on the early web.

As a kind of proof of that, Fray.com was one of the first sites with a guest book, a place where people who weren’t contributing full stories could still participate. It was secondary to the site itself, but guestbooks in general became pretty common after that. And the came comment sections, which started in a few places but was popularized by Open Diary. Before long, comments were a stable fixture of the web.

It wasn’t just comments, of course. Forums created a backbone to the participatory web that was extremely important, borrowed from the Internet days of BBS. The Trackback was introduced by Movable Type as a way of connecting blogs together, and giving them a way to talk to one another. Sites experimented with annotations, and public submissions, and live feedback, and so many more.

I still plan on tracing a more complete history of comments, but as a rough outline, they were pushed to the bottom of the page by the early 2000’s. By the 2010’s, they started falling off completely, inundated with neglected spam and flame wars. This made them pretty easy to turn off, which a lot of sites did. And some of that natural participation of the web fell off too.


The poetic part that Alex talks about, I think, is when you take the microphone away from the journalists and start telling your own stories. That’s the blessing of the web. That’s why we flock to it, to tell our own stories, to weave words that are both journalistic and poetic.

That’s Powazek, talking about what Massie did with Afterdinner. That was the intent back in 1996, when they both kicked off their sites. Comments and trackbacks and forums weren’t supposed to be where web participation ended. This was all just meant to be the first step until the technology got better. The blog was meant to be a place where people could come together and interact with one another, not a solo soapbox.

Which kind of reversed the original intent of the web. Trackbacks and comments and forums were meant to be a first step. Even with blogging, if you take a closer look. Blogs feel the most meaningful when they are a place where people can come together.


What’s old is new again. Trackbacks have finally evolved into a true social web backed like protocols like ActivityPub actually integrated into the fabric of the web, which is getting more mainstream by the day. Forums have been reincarnated as Discord groups or dedicated communities. It’s possible that even comments are making a comeback.

And there are now, and have always been, some group blogs out there. Sites like The Midnight Pub keeps the experimental nature of Fray alive. Journalist collectives like Every and Flaming Hydra or The Last Word on Nothing are carrying the torch of a site like Regarding. And there are certainly others.

So why not collaborative blogging? Why not groups of people coming together to create personal blogs? Something less formal than a journalist collective, but more communal than a personal blog. Blogging collectively opens us up to a new kind of content, one in which members of the blog are in conversation with one another in a way that’s comfortable and unique.

That idea is really appealing to me. Anybody else? Reach out if it is.

25 responses to “Do blogs need to be so lonely?”

  1. E Avatar
    E

    You’re making me miss LiveJournal!

    1. Coyote Avatar

      I was about to bring up LiveJournal too. For what it’s worth, you can find the same community features on Dreamwidth, which was forked off of the LJ code back in 2009 and is still going. A DW/LJ “community” may not exactly be a collaborative blog per se, but I’d say it’s pretty close.

  2. Alan Levine Avatar

    Also do not overlook Jonathan Harris’s (now gone) wonderful Cowbird community https://cowbird.com

    It’s not a technical problem; the whole space is turned over because of the expectation or desire for an audience, or to be heard. The chase of likes and reposts as some kind of validation. Do you write because you have something to say (you constantly do) or do you write to be heard? That’s the allure of newsletters is that it gets shoved into people’s inboxes, rather than creating a space where readers come to stay, like sitting on your front porch. Now everyone just wants to hang out to be seen at the social media mall.

    The hang up for a group blog is that most people don’t have a stake in it. If it does not feed their need for audience they bolt.

    The problem with blogs is not technical. How much effort is it to set up on WordPress.com, blogger, tumblr? Or a raft of other places like Write.as?

    I have no data but I firmly trust that far from
    Being dead, the blogiverse is thriving out on the edges of the shiny malls.

  3. Dan Q Avatar

    I read a lot of blogs, but it always saddens me when I find one with no comments capability. I get it, I really do: spam is a big problem and it’s hard to mitigate.

    But comments aren’t just about getting in touch with the author, so you can’t just replace them with an “email me” link and call it the same thing. They’re about communicating with other readers of the post. Getting a feel for the wider bubble. And, thanks to backlinks and Trackbacks and Pingbacks and Webmentions and ActivityPub, discovering other bloggers just outside your current horizon.

    The humble comments form may the simplest universal way to achieve all of the above. They’re not perfect. But they’re good enough, and I’m pleased to see them starting to make a comeback.

    1. Matt Maldre Avatar

      Dan, you hit on a great point! Comments aren’t just for the author. They are for the reader. And comments are not just extend points in the original post. Comments give you the vibbe of the other readers. This is brilliant.

  4. klez Avatar
    klez

    > Forums have been reincarnated as Discord groups

    I’ll have to politely disagree here, for a couple of reasons.

    1) Synchronous vs asynchronous communication. Maybe a better comparison would be to IRC. But I suppose you were talking about the communal aspect rather then the medium itself

    2) Many forums where at least free to read on the open web. Discord is not and will probably never be. And even the close ones where not at the mercy of a single company. If you got banned from a forum you could build your own, with blackjack and… you know. If Discords bans you you can’t be part of any community anymore. I’ll go out on a limb and say Discord is not part of the web. It’s a proprietary chat system that happens to have a web client.

  5. Alan Levine Avatar

    Indeed and agreed! Going to someone’s blog and leaving a comment is, to me, like visiting them on their front porch, while the banter of social media is again, just hanging out at the mall to hope others see you.

    I came across long ago the idea of a “comment blogger”, someone who has no blog of their own, but writes in the comment space of other people’s blogs. I actually recently got to “meet” him (in the comment space of a blog)

    https://cogdogblog.com/2025/06/after-so-long-meeting-lachance-the-mysterious-comment-blogger/

    In his honor, I ahve tried a number of years to take a span of time where I do not write on my own blog, but focus on commenting on others.

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  7. Younes Ben Amara Avatar

    I came from your newsletter. (I am subscriber) I usually read your blog posts via email and I save them all because they are precious and informative. So thank you very much for your fine work.

    I think the theory of bundling and unbundling is the true mechanism of the web. So as you have noticed comments for example almost gone for a while then they come back; and many people said blog is dead but the stats don’t agree with them.
    I think writer collectives will come back and flourish for a while but then a writer will go out and build their own thing. You mentioned Every and one of their writer went solo now.

    What I wish to happen in near future is that open source social web tech solves the discovery and distrubion problems for solo and collective writers, artists and creatives. Otherwise I am content with the chaos and randomness that the web is now.

    As for your invitation to collaboration I think reaching out to Daniel Hunter would be nice idea I can see you together can build something good. His project is non profit and I am not affiliated with him I am just a reader and follower of his projects. Here his idea: https://open.substack.com/pub/indiethinkers/p/think-week-48

    1. Jay Avatar
      Jay

      Yea, that’s a really good point. The tech has been evolving so much, and that certainly doesn’t seem to be the biggest blocker anymore. But we’ve gotten so used to being in one kind of mode with socail media, that I think we all need to adapt into soemthing better. Anyway, thanks for reading, and for the recommendation!

  8. Dan Avatar

    Very appealing! We’re doing it at https://canada.wordcamp.org/2025/blog. Group blogs were great fun and where I really got deep into MoveableType ages ago. It’s amazing we had time to create webzines (or anything) for fun once upon a time.

    Group blogs go really well with distributed book clubs. Here’s one forming around WordPress and Karl Fogel’s *Producing Open Source Software* https://aaron.jorb.in/a-wordpress-book-club/

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  10. Paige Avatar

    I love this! I’ve been on a little curatorial hunt for things that make the internet feel alive again (not social media), and stumbled across this, a lovely blog that makes me feel inspired! Im teaching myself how to create an archive of old media that reminds us there are far more ways to be living in this world (currently looks like shit!). I’d like to do what I can to stop the flattening of culture. Could we do a consortium of blogs/creative projects? Im excited to brainstorm how folks can engage with my blog/archive! Thank you for this, friend.

    1. Jay Avatar
      Jay

      Thanks for coming by my blog and sharing some thoughts on what seems like an interesting project. I’ve talked before with a few folks about building a consortium / webring type thing that combines some archival and historical efforts. If you’d like to reach out, I’ve love to hear more about it, you can send me an email: jay@thehistoryoftheweb.com

  11. Jack Yan Avatar

    I also thought Vox (2006–10) was a great blogging network. I made long-time friends on there, people I then met IRL. If you learned about someone through long-form blogging, you felt you had made a greater connection. You could also set the privacy levels of the posts, so you could save some thoughts for your closest connections. We were there for each other through break-ups, relationships, even one wedding.

    Some ex-Voxers tried to revive the site with Blogcozy in the 2010s, using open-source software, but that attracted about 100 members before the owner felt she couldn’t comply with GDPR and shut it down. Corporate social media had taken its place, sadly. Therefore I wonder what the demand is these days.

    I sometimes feel I am shouting into the void with my blog, too, but it is also a great record of events. Not that I ever wanted to, but my blog became a record of fights against Big Tech and their lies, and through the last 15 years, events proved me right.

  12. L. Jeffrey Zeldman Avatar

    Great stuff, Jay! You might enjoy reading my interview with Derek Powazek from 1996 or ’97 at https://zeldman.com/15/derekf.html.

    1. Jay Avatar
      Jay

      Thanks for the link, and your wonderful (and still fully live and accessible) archives

  13. Nicola Avatar

    I am with Dan… comments are not perfect but they DO have zero friction in using them like I am doing now.
    Replying or sending a cold email may seem like spam, asks you to spend time making a precise reference to what you are referring to, and also leave no space to others to add / build / correct other people contribution.

    That’s why my blogs have comments.

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  16. Matt Maldre Avatar

    It’s fascinating that some sites, like the Louder article says, are adding comment sections. What’s a bit odd is that the comments section on that very article says, “Commenting on this article has ended.”

    Okay, so I understand why some sites disable commenting after a certain period of time. There are comment trolls out there who will comment spam posts, even old posts. I get it.

    However, I absolutely love keeping old posts open for comments. It’s like reading a book from 20 years ago, and talking about it with someone. That book from 20 years ago could be relevant today.

    When Twitter was a normal site, I had a bookmarklet that would look at tweets made 10 years ago by people I followed. I would often reply to old tweets. There’s something about the magic of an archive that can continue to bring forth dialogue and new ideas.

    1. Dan Knauss Avatar

      I’m pulling for comments too, but more so group blogs and web rings. Dave Winer is right: it’s more about the community that makes it all work. When you build that, all the ways people share and interact are connections. Federated and open, intercompatible networks make it easier — it just gets a little challenging to manage context going from the concert of the world into an island taxi crisscrossing the archipelago.

  17. Erika Avatar
    Erika

    A surviving oldweb institution that might fit your bill is everything2.com, kind of a wiki for writers of both fiction and non. Multiple people can write articles under a topic (or create an empty topic for others to fill). Making inline links to each other’s posts is a key part of the culture, and I tend to pile up tabs going from one post to the next. People post short story challenges, movie reviews, explainers, and diaries.

    It needs some technological help to survive (it’s not mobile-friendly), but there are dedicated contributors who’ve been there 25 years.

  18. morishige Avatar

    Around 2010-2011 I participate on a collaborative blog about traveling. It was managed by two people but around 2014 the initiative ended. The blog became a personal blog and has been managed ever since by one of the initiators. They were great editors, though, and had successfully created a curated many interesting stories. It even became a source for professional editors to find writers to assign to. I learned a lot from them.

    But one of many things that make blog attractive is the absence (or lack of) censorship. You can create your own page, write your own stories, and no one stops you from posting them. A collaborative blog looks interesting. But the content will eventually go through curation process before it goes public. Censorship all over again.

    I love your front porch analogy. I feel it too. But you can always make your porch festive by doing some blogwalking. 😀

    That’s my two cents. Nice post, by the way. And happy blogging.

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